Many auction site members, including dealers continually infringe our IP (Intellectual Property) rights by using our copyright images. It's usually eBay, because they are the biggest, but other sites are not immune from the plague. We invest considerable time and money in our photographs, and do not appreciate their misappropriation by Bid or Buy Z.A. (BoB) members or others, especially when they are using our effort to compete with us.
pta_collectors, of Pretoria / Tshwane, South Africa, stole our 2009 Gold Krugerrand photograph to use on BoB, and omitted to tell buyers that the image was not of the coin he was selling. Totally dishonest!
Sample Listing
2009 Proof Kruger Rand (sic) - 1Oz
1oz of Proof Pure Gold - 2009 Krugerrand
Limited Edition of Only 1500 made !!
22 ct Gold
Encapsulated and Enclosed in a red SA Mint display box with a numbered Certificate of Authenticity
The Krugerrand Family Originally only one size was issued, which contained one full troy ounce (31.1035 grams) of fine gold. This was originally known as a Krugerrand, or Kruger, for short. From 1980, three other sizes were introduced, namely a half, quarter, and tenth ounce size. Because of these, the original Krugerrand is sometimes referred to as a "full" or "one ounce" Kruger or Krugerrand, although within the trade, the word Kruger or Krugerrand is understood to be the full sized original one ounce version.
We will courier your item via the SA Post Office. Speed Courier Services at R65 - 1kg, R70 - 2kg. WE DO NOT ACCEPT LIBILITY (sic) FOR ITEMS LOST OR DAMAGED IN THE SA POSTAL SYSTEM. We will supply you with a track and trace number. We prefer internet transfers but when you pay with cash, please add a 2% of the deposit amount to cover costs. We will ship items on Mondays only.
Bank transfere (sic) please. If you pay with cash, please add a 2% for banking costs.Account holder FC Snyman. ABSA Bank Account number 2190142240 Brach PTA North 632005. Pls sent payment conformation to snyman.flip423@gmail.com
What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
This particular BoB seller not only stole our image of the reverse of a 2009 Gold Krugerrand, he used it to sell his own coin on BoB. He did not seem to think it was worth mentioning to potential buyers that the high quality photographs of near mint condition coins were not his own photographs, and not the same coins as he was offering for sale. This is almost certainly illegal in the UK under the Trade Description Act, although it appears to happen on a daily basis on internet auction sites including BoB.
It's possible he is ignorant of such fine points, or just plain ignorant.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar coin, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
Feedback BoB uses a members feedback system similar to that used by eBay. When we created this page pta_collectors had a feedback of 376, with 99.74% positive according to Bid or Buy.
Price
The seller was asking a starting price of ZAR 12,600 for his coin!
It sounds expensive to us, so this dealer is not only lazy and dishonest, but greedy too!
Copyright Notice Please see our "Copyright" page for further information.
Copyright Infringements Remedies Our suggested draft remedies for copyright abusers dependent on category - competitors, bloggers, pseudo-expert & advice sites acting as eBay & Google portals, eBay & other auction site sellers.
Copyright Thieves on Bid or Buy Z.A.
We already have a page naming and shaming dealers using our images without permission. It's time we did the same for Bid or Buy Z.A., although if we include them all, this could be a very long page.
| Seller ID | Item Number | Date | Description | Price |
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pta_collectors
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17329365 | 24th Nov 2009 | 2009 Proof Kruger Rand - 1Oz | R 12,600 |
Notes
Seller ID. There is nothing to stop Bid or Buy Z.A. members changing their "Seller ID", or opening a new account.
Item Number. We may have shown only one out of many similar items.
Date = End date or date added to this page if item still current.
Description = Description as used by the seller as his item title.
Price = Final selling price if known, otherwise "Current Price", or "Starting bid".
Alphabetical Listing of Other Copyright Theft Sites
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- Chards
www.chards.co.uk - Investment Gold Bars & Coins (This Site)
taxfreegold.co.uk - General Coins & Jewellery:
www.24carat.co.uk - Gold Sovereigns:
goldsovereigns.co.uk - 18 Carat Gold Jewellery:
www.18carat.co.uk - 9 Carat Gold Jewellery:
www.9carat.co.uk
pta_collectorss Proof Krugerrand Bid or Buy Auction Listing
Our 2004 Proof Krugerrand Obverse Image
Our 2009 Krugerrand Reverse Image
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